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by 50YearsOfCigars
Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:52 am
Forum: Articles from Our Members
Topic: What Do I Tell My Friends & Relatives about Vaping?
Replies: 2
Views: 3310

Landmark e-cigarette report

Landmark e-cigarette report explodes myth that vaping is as toxic as smoking A mammoth new report on the public health consequences of e-cigarettes finds there is conclusive evidence that e-cigarettes are less dangerous than regular cigarettes, and smokers who switch to vaping will reduce their expo...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !
Replies: 3
Views: 6217

Re: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !

If you are a user of the Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents in the cloud server: PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING IMPORTANT INFORMATION ! For many years it was stored on a cloud server operated by Amazon. However recently Amazon notified us that they no longer will support the various fi...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:10 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents
Replies: 2
Views: 16059

New Cloud Server for Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents

If you are a user of the Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents in the cloud server: PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING IMPORTANT INFORMATION ! For many years it was stored on a cloud server operated by Amazon. However recently Amazon notified us that they no longer will support the various fi...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:29 am
Forum: Articles from Our Members
Topic: The Junk Science Section
Replies: 3
Views: 3635

Who Pays for Junk Science ? grand total $152,856,477,210.76.

https://i.postimg.cc/w6PGqYVh/Master-Settlement-Payouts-2015-2022.png https://i.postimg.cc/s3mmXCVM/Master-Settlement-Payouts-1999-2014.png Who Pays for Junk Science ? a grand total of $152,856,477,210.76. The federal and state governments and politically connected trial lawyers have become the pri...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Fri May 06, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: FDA finally puts the "coffin-nail" in USA Vaping
Replies: 0
Views: 7739

FDA finally puts the "coffin-nail" in USA Vaping

The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2022, which President Joe Biden signed into law on March 15, included a provision that expanded the FDA’s authority over “tobacco products” to include products that do not contain tobacco or tobacco derivatives. Congress achieved that counterintuitive result b...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:46 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents
Replies: 2
Views: 16059

Re: Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents

RECENT UPDATES: -==Added 07/08/2022 to JunkScience Section===- Master Settlement Agreement Payments_to_States.pdf -==Added 05/04/2022 to JunkScience Section===- Wave 3 Population Assessment Tobacco and Health Study (2015–2016).pdf -==JunkScience.pdf==- -==Added 05/04/2022 ===- Nicotine impurities i...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:49 am
Forum: Articles from Our Members
Topic: Sourcing Nicotine
Replies: 12
Views: 4417

Re: Sourcing Nicotine

Welcome to the Nicotine Prohibition Era The following is posted from a 04/05/2022 Article that you can find here; https://reason.com/2022/04/02/welcome-to-the-nicotine-prohibition-era/ Authored by: JACOB GRIER, a freelance writer, bartender, and consultant based in Portland, is the author of The Re...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: How Do I Make NETS ? Can You Teach Me?
Replies: 1
Views: 3123

Re: How Do I make NETS ? Can You Teach Me?

Many people might have found their way to this BBS during the adventure of searching the Internet that was motivated by their quest to use vaping as a means of Tobacco Harm Reduction. I want to reprint here a post I made several years ago on a general subject matter BBS that is geared towards those ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:39 am
Forum: What is Currently in Our Members Jars?
Topic: My first 6 jars.
Replies: 4
Views: 5252

Re: My first 6 jars.

regarding my question from the YouTube channel I would like to repeat on it here as this will effect when I choose to filter the PG stage 1 and 5 micron. So here I copied it as I asked in regards to your informative explanation on how some aromatic molecules derived in time and ageing from sugars a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:47 pm
Forum: Blends, Hybrids, Clones by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Experimental Cigar Blends with Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78
Replies: 0
Views: 10883

Experimental Cigar Blends with Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78

Experimental Cigar Blends with Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78 see: https://www.diy-tobacco.net/viewtopic.php?p=374#p374 for detailed review and information of the LGDFC extraction Tester#1 - - 80% FRONTO (premixed as 4.0 FRONTO 6.0 VG/PG 0.7 Nic) - 20% LGDFC (premixed to 3.0 LGDFC - 8.0 VG/PG ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Extractions by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Pure Leaf Varietals
Replies: 1
Views: 12123

Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78

Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78 - 05/28/2021 source: LeafOnly.com ====================== This is a review of my extraction of what was sold and simply labeled as "Low Grade Dark Fire Cured" sourced from leafonly.com. I might drag on a little long with this post, but there is a lot of ground to c...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:02 pm
Forum: Extractions From Our Members
Topic: Samples by @Kinniknnick
Replies: 0
Views: 1988

Samples by @Kinniknnick

Thanks to the magic of USPS priority mail, and @Kinnikinnick's generosity I have a samples of several of his extractions. So my TIS comments on them are: ================================ Tabac Manil ~ Le Petit Robin: Two distinct melodies here, The Tabac Manil: La Brumeuse is absolutely there with i...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:02 am
Forum: Extractions by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Commercial Blends Without Latakia
Replies: 1
Views: 6155

Re: Blends Without Latakia

Topic Bumped 06/03/2021, new Blends added at top of above posted listing.
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sun May 30, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: 50/50 Rapid Skim Testing
Replies: 0
Views: 5483

50/50 Rapid Skim Testing

A recurring question is: "How do I know when to call the extraction process done, and take the extraction to the 'Finish and Filter Stage' ? Many of us have just used a month marker system to answer the question for us: For example when extracting a light pure leaf a common time frame is 6 months, f...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:09 pm
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !
Replies: 3
Views: 6217

Re: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !

HOW TO POST PICTURES OR PHOTOGRAPHS IN A REPLY OR POST: Another issue in the phpBB software is the rather convoluted method that the software uses to insert Photographs or Images in Posts. Fortunately there is a great work around for this. Basically it involves use of a third party file sharing ser...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:16 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Scientific Controversy, The Wild West of Scientific Research
Replies: 0
Views: 5179

Scientific Controversy, The Wild West of Scientific Research

Rather than drag the subject matter of this BBS continuously off track by posting an unlimited amount of my critiques of 'junk science', I thought I would rather give you here a link to a BBS that is actually tracking this bullshit on a continuous basis. They have a 'daily update' button where you c...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19
Replies: 5
Views: 6142

Re: Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19

Here is another paper about this issue. Unfortunately the methods used in this paper are very weak. It is just amazing how the industry of "science" has fallen to nothing more than marketing and the pursuit of money grants from governments and private special interest funding organizations. There is...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:24 pm
Forum: Articles from Our Members
Topic: Sourcing Nicotine
Replies: 12
Views: 4417

Your ability to obtain Nicotine is vanishing

I have used NicVape as my primary supplier of very clean and very high quality 100mg/ml Pure Nicotine for several years. I was just notified that they have discontinued sales and no long sell or ship inside the USA. On 02/03/2021 I sent an e-mail to the Customer Support at NicVape asking for clarifi...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19
Replies: 5
Views: 6142

Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19

Recently there was referenced in the U.S. National Library of Medicine website: "ClinicalTrial.gov" an ongoing study sponsored by the Assistance Publique - Hôpitaux de Paris about : Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19 Infection in Caregivers - Principal Investigator: Zahir AMOURA, MD If you ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:46 am
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Want2Vape... is nothing sacred ?
Replies: 7
Views: 16703

Want2Vape... is nothing sacred ?

Well I originally was going to post a review of the flavor profiles of some of the Want2Vape products (see https://www.want2vape.com ) but.... I have on hand these that were donated to me several years ago; https://i.postimg.cc/KzDwzCzh/want2vape.png so thought I would return to their main store on ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:17 am
Forum: Articles from Our Members
Topic: Best Moisture Content of Feedstock before immersion in Extraction Media?
Replies: 8
Views: 4199

Re: Best Moisture Content of Feedstock before immersion in Extraction Media?

This new TOPIC TITLE was split off from viewtopic.php?f=13&t=32 so that we can continue on with this interesting subject in this dedicated area...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:55 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents
Replies: 2
Views: 16059

Tobacco Information and Chemistry Reference Documents

The following link takes you to a Cloud Server that has the following Documents. —>Go To The Server: --->>https://www.diy-tobacco.net/Reference_Docs/ =============================Main Folder Section Listing============================= 1,3-Propanediol | C3H8O2 | ChemSpider.pdf Addictive Behavior Re...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Artificial Vape Chemistry and the Subject of Safety
Replies: 5
Views: 7902

Artificial Vape Chemistry and the Subject of Safety

Artificial Vape Chemistry and the Subject of Safety: Are you a user of products that come from : ⁃ Capella Flavor ⁃ Flavor West ⁃ LorAnn Oils ⁃ Flavor Apprentice ⁃ FlavourArt or other artificial chemistry compounding labs? This blog site that you are on now “DIY-TOBACCO.NET is a niche site concerne...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:25 am
Forum: Buy, Sell, Trade
Topic: How to Use This Area..
Replies: 0
Views: 4934

How to Use This Area..

Any registered user of the BBS can list here. What have you got to Sell, Trade, or WTB ? Here is where you can buy sell or trade. Please use common sense and leave an email where you can be contacted. Or people can use the PM feature of the BBS to contact you, but email might be more reliable. You m...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:27 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !
Replies: 3
Views: 6217

Re: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !

GETTING THE MOST OUT OF THE SEARCH BAR: We are running on a new server now. It is very fast and performs well. One of the things it does well is the "SEARCH" function. I made some changes to the way it behaves and it will search for almost anything. This is great because it allowes you to do things...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu May 28, 2020 11:22 am
Forum: Extractions by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Pure Leaf Varietals
Replies: 1
Views: 12123

Pure Leaf Varietals

LAST UPDATE: 07/26/2021 Low Grade Dark Fire Cured Batch#-78 - 05/28/2021 Source: LeafOnly.com NOTE: See detailed review here: https://www.diy-tobacco.net/viewtopic.php?p=374#p374 Brightleaf Virginia Flue Cured - Sweet Source: LeafOnly.com Batch#-73 - 06/05/2019 - F&F on: 5/26/2020 30g / 150PG Ultra...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed May 27, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Lost Username or Password
Topic: HELP - I lost my Username or Password
Replies: 0
Views: 5175

HELP - I lost my Username or Password

If you lost your Username or Password Then: Click Here to Open a Support Ticket There is no automated way to reset it yourself, but your Support Ticket will bring you help within 24hrs. Please be patient and wait for a return email explaining the next steps to get your log-in information back.
by 50YearsOfCigars
Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Recipes & Reviews from Our Members
Topic: Captain Black
Replies: 1
Views: 1808

Captain Black

Hi there,
I'm a complete newbie to NET.
I'm based in Egypt. The only readily available tobacco is captain black, both pipe tobacco and cigars.
Do you reckon it's okay to use for NET process?
Appreciate your help.
Cheerio,
Joey
by 50YearsOfCigars
Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Extractions by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Commercial Blends Without Latakia
Replies: 1
Views: 6155

Commercial Blends Without Latakia

Last Update: 06/01/2021 GL Pease - Union Square Brand G. L. Pease Blended By Gregory Pease Manufactured By Cornell & Diehl Blend Type Straight Virginia Contents Virginia Flavoring None Cut Flake Packaging 2 ounce tin, 8 ounce tin Country US This extraction prepared by Kinnikinnick, review by Peter_R...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Here's My Current Vape Rotation
Replies: 0
Views: 8753

Here's My Current Vape Rotation

Updated on 06/06/2021 https://i.postimg.cc/sgw37Wv8/rotation-attys.jpg Updated on 06/06/2021 1.joytech Grey Black Berserker - Lane Cohiba 2.Pico Black Black Berserker- 1/2PS314 Dark Fired 1/2McBaren Dark Fired 3.Drag Mini Siren V2 Peterson Irish Cask 4.Jac Vapour Silver Berserker Royal Yacht 03/24/2...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: How Do I Make NETS ? Can You Teach Me?
Replies: 1
Views: 3123

How Do I Make NETS ? Can You Teach Me?

First a DISCLAIMER: ========= This Old School BBS was started by a very small group of niche tobacco lovers. Most of us have already mastered the basics of simple extraction techniques, so a “by the numbers” -or- “how to guide book” was not what we intended with the creation of this site. However, t...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: Meet our mascot "George"
Replies: 0
Views: 2654

Meet our mascot "George"

In our lab George has the run of the place and can choose anything he wants. He does, however, show a preference for a rare extract of a real pre-Cuban Embargo, Habanos S.A. Punch Julieta No. 2. I asked him about that and he responded, "You know Peter, there are Rats all over the World, my family an...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Tabac Manil: La Brumeuse
Replies: 0
Views: 7927

Tabac Manil: La Brumeuse

https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tobacco/Tabac-Manil/La-Brumeuse-3.5oz/product_id/151938 Use Case: If you are looking for a fast extracting minimally processed or pure leaf that will give you a vape that is as close to Cuban Cigar flavor profiles as you can get. Use as an ADV Cigar Vape or will se...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: NET Rating 14ea FLAVORAH synth “tobacco” samples
Replies: 1
Views: 8237

NET Rating 14ea FLAVORAH synth “tobacco” samples

DISCLAIMER: First, as everyone here understands, TIS, = “taste is subjective”. These comments are from the perspective of my taste buds only. Your milage might vary. I have no connection with FLAVORAH. I obtained these samples from a CARE package sent to me by fellow traveler in NET @Kinnikinnick . ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB< Hopefully we can assume that at this point we have a combined extract that is free of common pathogens. That’s great to know a little more about the alcohol concentration cutoff point. My only thought is that during the processing of the H2O extract, it should still remain in a certain safety ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

Of course the logical question (which we have asked previously) is 1.) what is the debris composed of? I suspect oils, waxes 2.) we intend to discard the debris material, but the $64 question is: Is there flavor components in there? Yes, this is one of the things I am encountering so far with a cig...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:28 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

So I put it in the 0F freezer overnight and it is nicely dropping clear, with the oils at the bottom. It is really clearing nicely. Of course the logical question (which we have asked previously) is 1.) what is the debris composed of? I suspect oils, waxes 2.) we intend to discard the debris materia...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: So this was very weird. I reduced the Perique H2O extract by 75%, performed a 1 micron filtration. Then added 190 proof PGA at a ratio of 60%H20/40%PGA. Immediately, the extract ‘curdled’ for lack of a better word. You can see it on the glass a little, but it’s throughout the extract too. Put...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars CAAB: certain harmful byproducts may remain, such as botulism toxin. (…) Do you know what a reasonable cost is? What are your thoughts, test one sample or set of samples, or is this a recurring thing? We can get a test for just the botulism toxin. I think it would remain, as it is a ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB:
50YearsOfCigars:
We can get these tested for at a local lab (IEH) at a reasonable cost:
Do you know what a reasonable cost is? What are your thoughts, test one sample or set of samples, or is this a recurring thing?
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB 50YearsOfCigars: Hopefully we can assume that at this point we have a combined extract that is free of common pathogens. That’s great to know a little more about the alcohol concentration cutoff point. My only thought is that during the processing of the H2O extract, it should still remain in a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars More on this: “ I think with the water extracts, certain microbial contaminates need to be considered and addressed throughout the whole process.” from: https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/guidelines/disinfection/disinfection-methods/chemical.html “alcohol” refers to two water-solub...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars
CAAB:
I also found this article
Oh yes that article has been my Bible for many months now I consult it often, tons of valuable information ! :wink:
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars CAAB: I think with the water extracts, certain microbial contaminates need to be considered and addressed throughout the whole process. Here is just a first shot across the bow,… Let me hear you guys feed back on this. -======================================================== The opt...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: 50YearsOfCigars: I will need to accumulate some items from Amazon like pH test strips and so forth. The lab grows… 50YearsOfCigars: I agree with you. Let me spend a day or two seeing what I can turn up and then we should discuss this topic in detail. I have a bunch of personal stuff today, so ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB

I also found this article which touches upon pH. It explores the different chemical compounds found in the tobacco leaf as well.

https://www.leffingwell.com/download/Le ... nology.pdf 1
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB I think with the water extracts, certain microbial contaminates need to be considered and addressed throughout the whole process. I’ve tried to keep everything out of the 40 - 140° F range throughout the extraction process. Of particular concern at this time is botulism. Due to the low oxygen e...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars Kinnikinnick: So, you’ll need to explain to me what I’ve received. Here is how the “Control PG” was made: NOTE: Here is how the Control Sample was made: Missouri Meerschaum: American Patriot 45g Batch#-25 8/20/2017 Combined finished and Filtered on 11/06/2017: 130F-8HRS Heat Start on...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

Kinnikinnick 50YearsOfCigars: @Kinnikinnick is the Periques expert around here Errrm, I don’t know about that. :smirk: I do love a good Va/Per blend though. The Perique which I have extracted is from the Pipes & Cigars site; just your plain old “blending” Perique. I did a heated PG with a couple of ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:01 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars CAAB: I don’t know, a lot of risk and reward there… It’s going to take careful work. But it could be a class of high-end tobacco extractions. A fermented water extraction. Humm… well good luck. Do you have a background in biology? You mentioned cross contamination, and so forth. And ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:01 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars CAAB: . There is no question that the freeze-filtered hot ethanol extraction is inferior in terms of flavor extraction BINGO !!! CAAB: Anyway, does that sound about right? Yep, sounds like you have Perique there !!! hahaha… @Kinnikinnick is the Periques expert around here. If you wan...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB 50YearsOfCigars: On the extended steep time for Perique you mention : “what if the fermentation can be extended in distilled water in a canning jar? This would be a room temperature extraction for several months. So instead of killing everything in the tobacco, you would feed it in an anaerobic...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB Just vaped the Perique pretty hardcore. There is no question that the freeze-filtered hot ethanol extraction is inferior in terms of flavor extraction. The water-extracted Perique has a very distinct flavor. I performed a very similar extraction process. Unfortunately, I’ve never smoked or vape...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: I think I will try this, a six month extraction at room temperature of a few tobaccos in H2O. Have to do a little more research though. Right. I assume you mean researching the possible heath related issues. I will be very curious to see what you turn up. Post any information on that you find...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
Views: 43975

Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars: So going forward, will just cut and paste the relevant parts of the PM Water Extraction thread, the EA thread, and the soon to be release thread on my Ferris Wheel contraption (which is almost finished). Then the plan is make a brief post listing the fact that they exist and that i...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
Replies: 67
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB Well I’m probably going to die, because I read on the ELR forum that anything water is going to kill me. At 12:15 in video one, listen to what he says. He hydrates it with water. And how many months does it sit there? So obviously that’s going to kill anyone who smokes perique in a pipe too. It...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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I thnk you have seen the famous factory tour. After you see how they make this stuff you can understand that most anything might be in that jar of yours. hahaha :wink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYYqB4oSa7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXkuquLnXEQ https://i.postimg.cc/Pfm3q7By/Screen-Shot-20...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:55 am
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CAAB 19d Stuck it in the freezer a couple of hours. Not much difference. Filtered it in 1 micron again. Very slow going, very mucky. Surprising because just straight water, it filtered through quickly. Something about the alcohol… I should mention the 1 micron filter is a polyester filter felt. They...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars I am looking at your two pictures. Although this looks like a precipitate from a chemical reaction process, but I can’t imagine what organic reaction that might be. In inorganic chemistry (what I much more familiar with) it would take things like permanganates to get reactions with a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

anon13011326
50YearsOfCigars:
Perique
I think you hit the nail there the processing of that tobacco uses pressure and moisture which brings out the oils, time, moisture and pressure ferment it.
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

anon13011326 Question, the heating process of using water, can it be that it is producing an essential oil distillation or should I say extraction. I have read that low temp distillation is being accomplished for waste water removal (oils) etc. as low as 45-50c (120 +/- f), with rather simple means....
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

https://i.postimg.cc/8zTqDGcL/Screen-Shot-2019-07-10-at-9-51-30-AM.png Here is the extract heated to approx 160 degrees F for 7 minutes or so. Very rough guess here. Gently agitated. Heating it seemed to darken it. Perhaps reduce the layer of whatever that curdled stuff is. But what remains is pret...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:50 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars CAAB: Perique H2O Humm, Perique is such an unusual material that this one is really hard to say. Oil is a possibility but in theory the water should not have pick up much if any oil in its part of the extraction. My best guess is that it is some sort of cellular-protein structures (p...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

anon13011326

Looks like oils separating from water to me
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: So this was very weird. I reduced the Perique H2O extract by 75%, performed a 1 micron filtration. Then added 190 proof PGA at a ratio of 60%H20/40%PGA. Immediately, the extract ‘curdled’ for lack of a better word. You can see it on the glass a little, but it’s throughout the extract too. Putt...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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anon13011326:

yogurt makers run around 115F it was quite a craze and I have seen plenty in thrift stores very cheap, think that would work
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars CAAB: I am thinking that I already am heating the hell out of the tobacco to extract the flavors, so a little more heat in the evaporation phase shouldn’t be a big deal in terms of undesirable effect on flavors. Humm, well that is a “cut and try thing”… If it works OK but… I have a f...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:46 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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anon13011326: A small dehydrator would probably work, it is really nothing more than a low temperature oven with a fan I have a pretty good one and make jerky now and then. Your oven set at the lowest temp might be above what a dehydrator can work at between mid 90F and 155F, the lower temps are bes...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB Hey, a lot to think about here regarding the ELR forum. I will do research. In any case, I’ve been delayed due to car issues on the H2O extraction method. But I am finally on round 2 of reduction. I tripled evaporation surface area. Still struggling to get down to 75% reduction in 4 hour safety...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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The Test-1 Atty “B” was a 30% sample of a 50/50 blend of H20 and ethyl alcohol? EDIT: Let’s look at it this way a 10 grams amount of “vapable Liquid in Test#1” is composed of these amounts: 1.2 grams of Reduced Alcohol Extract 1.8 grams of Reduced Water Extract 7.0 grams of Pure VG to crunch the num...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB 50YearsOfCigars: This is the best mix-ratio of those tried. The flavor profile is almost identical to Basis Comparison Mix Sounds exciting. I think I may need a cliff notes version of this. I think I get where you’re coming from, but I wanted to summarize in a different way. The Test-1 Atty “B”...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars: Test A/B with known good sample of previously PG extracted Sample. Do I have everyone address? I have @Kinnikinnick but need @anon13011326 and @CAAB please send me your Postal address to PeterRamish@iCloud.com I will send out samples of the first round of this experiment, along with...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars: So here is something that you can put together for under $20 Actually, most people have the parts hanging around in a junk box anyway. I scrounge my local ‘thrift store’ and get this type of stuff for pennies. Very clever. Something very affordable. If the finished e-liquid has a g...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: 50YearsOfCigars: However, I think you want a HEPA filter over that air supply. I would be concerned about contamination from all the junk that floats around in room air. Good point. The fan has a filter, but not HEPA. I have folded cheese cloth over the bowls, but that’s more for bugs and othe...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars CAAB: if the constant airflow will cause some kind of undesirable effect on flavor through oxidation. No I don’t this is an issue. Water itself can act, under very particular and rare not commonly occurring circumstances, as an oxidizer in re-dox reactions, but water is very particul...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: 50YearsOfCigars: Later, I will experiment with examination and testing of the two fractions that this freezing produced. Wouldn’t have thought of freezing the water myself. That is interesting. How do you separate out the two fractions? Did you allow the ice to thaw and then decant? Do they re...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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23d Well this is most interesting. I cleared the Water Extract (Process Sample#1) by centrifuging for 1 hour at 4500RPM. The result was clear liquid, with a debris pellet thrown to the bottom of the centrifuge tube. The Clear supernatant was decanted off the top, then put in a clean tube and frozen ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: problems in terms of all that vapor inside the chamber? recover ethanol? what I would reasonably spend in a few years on Everclear. right on the chamber issues, but if you look at the design of that iBlaze cheepie you will notice that it has a filtered input ball valve that is vented to the o...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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50YearsOfCigars: Then vacuum dehydrate down both extractions to some reasonable level I am curious. I was looking into the vacuum chamber idea. As I understand it, the H2O would boil off in a sealed container. Does that cause problems in terms of all that vapor inside the chamber? Would it need to ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:27 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: Doing research on the ultrasonic bath. All these home units have to be re-set every 30 minutes. I considered rewiring to constant ON then using a programmable timer to control the cycles, but thought better of that. For safety I never use the units unless I am around to supervise operation. Y...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: Doing research on the ultrasonic bath. I see them on Amazon and such for around $80 with a heat setting. They go for 30 minutes. So do you just turn it back on every hour? I take it you’ve tried this with other extractions. Does it make a significant difference? Do you place your extraction in...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

50YearsOfCigars: I think you are going to need more than 10 mins. even though the Water is a better solvent across a wider temp range (see my tech charts from the other PM thread) the cell wall structure is not a trivial barrier. As I always point out “that’s the way Mother Nature made it”, and for...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: Added distilled water at 195 degrees F for 10 minutes, stirring frequently. Evaporated that down to around 30ml. Blended 10% H20 extract with 90% VG Vaped it in SXK doggystyle, Almost no Virginia flavor. how the PGA and H20 interact 10 minutes? I am at 24hrs in Utra-Sonic. I think you are goi...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: Can’t rush a good thing I suppose. I tried filling a 4oz mason jar with a straight Virginia. Added distilled water at 195 degrees F for 10 minutes, stirring frequently. This is how I do herbal infusions. Relying on my tea background here. Literally brewed over a thousand pots of tea by my esti...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

My Dr. said it was fine. Dr. Daniels, Jack Daniels… I am working on an H2O extract now, it took a little over 4 hours to reduce by 60% using a dehumidifier with fan in a small enclosed room. So that is an area to work on in terms of a bacteria risk. I started like a normal ethanol evaporation, but a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

I will drop a email to drfarsalinos@ecigarette-research.org and tell him what we are up to here with the water extracts and ask if he has any input.

well, unfortunately that was not very productive:

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by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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CAAB: a decidedly unscientific approach I don’t think that’ unscientific at all. There are other things that will keep food borne bacterial and mold at bay. Besides your liquor cabinet, look at your pickle jar. They drop the Ph with acetic acid. bacterial hate low Ph ! The service tray at your neig...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

CAAB: I have taken a decidedly unscientific approach to the concept of preservation regarding water-based extracts. I looked in my liquor cabinet for shelf-stable liquors. They were all 80 proof (40% alcohol). That’s what I may aim for. Although for my first extraction, I am going to avoid the alcoh...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

anon13011326: you may have seen it and it may be no good anymore no I have not seen it before, but then again discussion of this potential hazard in our vape extracts and liquids never crossed my radar until now with this water extraction. Please keep these type of references comming. If you spot a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Re: Ongoing Project - Experiments with Water Extraction

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This is way above my pay grade but I came across this paper, you may have seen it and it may be no good anymore. It deals with bacteria growth from organic (soil) in various glycols.
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: Experiments with Water Extraction
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Experiments with Water Extraction

=============================================================== NOTE: At resting between any active process on Sample#1 (the water based extraction) that jar and its content are placed in a home refrigerator about 40F. This is an effort to control any possible mold / bacteria growth; Process steps a...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !
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Views: 6217

Helpful Hints on Getting the Most Out of this "Old School" BBS !

Addmittely this phpBB software that runs this board is very "old school". If you have been using boards running on much newer designs, things like "discourse", then this BBS will seem pretty clunky. It is powerful, but the learning curve for the user can be a little stiff. If you get stumped on how ...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Black Note Commercial China Sample Testting
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Views: 7468

Black Note Commercial China Sample Testting

I received the shipment from Health Cabin. The products ordered were the 10ml sample bottles that normally come in the “Notebook Sample Box” VERY IMPORTANT -->> Please do your own testing and your own due diligence. Do not take my following comments as gospel !!! Get your own data, and your own samp...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Tasting Notes 4 Cigar Filler Varietals
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Views: 7212

Tasting Notes 4 Cigar Filler Varietals

A huge shout out and THANK YOU to @anon13011326 who generously supplied these samples in his offer in this previous post 2 EDIT: Sadly David5362 dropped his membership to this forum. So he is now listed as anon13011326. I took him up on the offer and here is the result. Doing Single Varietal Leaf ex...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: NET Solvent Reduction of Ethanol and Water Carriers
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Views: 6635

NET Solvent Reduction of Ethanol and Water Carriers

NET Solvent Reduction of Ethanol and Water Carriers In many methods of performing NET Extractions there is a required step that involves reducing the volume of solvent after the initial infusion or extraction step. The purpose of this reduction is to bring the flavor elements to a higher percentage...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: NET Centrifuge Filtration of DIY NET
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NET Centrifuge Filtration of DIY NET

NET Centrifuge Filtration of DIY NET https://i.postimg.cc/K8ytkxLB/image1.png Centrifuge Part 1 Filtration is a subject that is actively discussed in the NET DIY world. There are hundreds of posted threads regarding all manner of filtration, but none discuss the use of a Centrifuge. I thought I wou...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: NET Accelerating Extractions w/ Ultrasonic & Ferris Wheels
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NET Accelerating Extractions w/ Ultrasonic & Ferris Wheels

NET Accelerating Extractions w/ Ultrasonic & Ferris Wheels I don’t know anyone who has been involved with Tobacco NETs that hasn’t said, “I sure wish there was a way to make these extractions go faster!” Well, to explore how to do that first we have to look at the plant cell structure that holds th...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Reviews by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Black Note Commercial USA Product Reviews
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Views: 6438

Black Note Commercial USA Product Reviews

Black Note Commercial Product Reviews DISCLAIMER: First, as everyone here understands, TIS, = “taste is subjective”. These comments are from the perspective of my taste buds only. Your milage might vary. FYI, in real life I am a NET tobacco vaper only. I do not, as a matter of personal choice and f...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: Click to Start Here:
Topic: What's Going On Here ?
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Views: 2837

What's Going On Here ?

This site is primarily a place to store information on extractions and a place to post technical information. WE ARE VERY TOBACCO CENTRIC HERE ! IF YOUR PRIMARY INTEREST IS IN MIXING SYNTHETIC FLAVORED FRUITS, DESERT, CUSTARDS AND THE LIKE THEN THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE FOR YOU. If you like the...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Articles by 50YearsOfCigars
Topic: About My Standard Extraction Recipe
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Views: 5654

About My Standard Extraction Recipe

Most of my vape recipes when using my NET extractions follow a very standard method, so I don't feel it is necessary to list what amounts to the same formula over and over again. Basically I follow this General Method: 15 to 25 % Extraction (PG extraction) 50 % Propylene Glycol 25 % Vegetable Glycer...
by 50YearsOfCigars
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Extractions by 50YearsofCigars
Topic: Commercial Blends with Latakia:
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Views: 5675

Commercial Blends with Latakia:

Habana Daydream Blended By Robillard / Tarler Manufactured By Cornell & Diehl Blend Type Cigar Leaf Based Contents Black Cavendish, Cigar Leaf, Latakia, Perique, Virginia Flavoring None Batch#-44 9/23/2017 -4/01/2018 130F-8HRSs Propylene Glycol 150mls Batch#-48 9/30/2017 -4/01/2018 Habana Daydream 2...


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